Abilities and Bloodlines

[Vari]

Hello everyone,

I know a few of you but I think even fewer know how sensitive I am to the supernatural and paranormal. It's not a topic I normally talk about for fear of judging. But considering the topic of this forum, I figured I'd finally give it a try. So here I am jumping into it.

While I was at home over Christmas, I felt someone ominous in my room as I tried to sleep. I was so frightened that I even considered sleeping on the couch to get away. But this isn't the topic I want to talk about in this particular thread. I may open another to give some more details on that though. In the evening the next day before I went to bed, I told my mother about this presence. She told me the same she told me as a child when this happened (yes, I've had experiences even as a child). But then she said something that made me curious that she hadn't told me before. After calming me a bit, she told me that while she never had these kinds of experiences, my uncle has.

So now I wonder, does anyone know if these psychic/paranormal abilities follow family bloodlines? These kinds of things interest me - heritage and patterns and such. But it also makes me worry for any child that I may have in the future. If I have felt so alone and scared sometimes from this, will my kid feel the same in the future? I wouldn't wish that on them or anyone for that matter.

I'm all ears!
Vari

[Alan Vende]

It's not a topic that I normally talk about with people either because I have gotten a lot of "flock" for it over the years with people thinking that I'm crazy and everything. I wanted to have a place where people could talk about this without fear of being judged - which is why this forum has come into existence. I was sick of having people always belittle me and make me think that I was crazy for the experiences that I had. I also was sick and tired of having people be made fun of and I didn't want to just sit back and watch anymore... I wanted to do something about it, or try to, at least.

It's interesting that you bring up the topic of psychic abilities and how they correlate with family bloodlines because when I was talking to a psychic friend of mine (essence , actually,) she told me that someone was there with her and began describing her to me. To make a long story short (that part, at least), its as my paternal great grandmother (my grandpa's mom, not my grandma's mom) who came through. Maybe my dear friend will be able to elaborate on this more, as it's a bit cloudy for me at the moment, but she came through and told me that she had experiences, too.

My grandma also had an experience, too. For years, a friend of hers and I have been telling her that she's a psychic (after about 83 years, she's finally starting to believe it. She doesn't want anything to do with it, though, which is very, very understandable.) In the beginning, I was told that psychic abilities follow bloodlines. On the other hand, though, I was told that everyone has psychic abilities and it isn't a matter of bloodline; rather, it's a matter of who wants to be open to them or not. An example of this, is I'm open to it, but my dad is not. He is the grandson of the person who came through and said that she was a psychic.

I have also had spirits visit me and, what I refer to as, "stay the night". I have gotten used to it, though, but when it first started happening, it was a nightmare.

In terms of "So now I wonder, does anyone know if these psychic/paranormal abilities follow family bloodlines? These kinds of things interest me - heritage and patterns and such. But it also makes me worry for any child that I may have in the future. If I have felt so alone and scared sometimes from this, will my kid feel the same in the future? I wouldn't wish that on them or anyone for that matter": No, I do not think that since you have felt so alone and scared from this that your kid will feel the same. I don't say that because I'm trying to think positively about it. It's all in how you treat it - how you come off to him/her if and when they come to you and confide in you that they have had an experience (or two or three, like in my case) that they can't comprehend. My parents, at first, anyway, shrugged it off and said that I was crazy. My mom, though, over the years, has come to accept my abilities (to a degree, at least, if not fully).

It's all in how you look at it and how you treat people who are having experiences because, like you, they can be scared and looking for someone to validate their experiences and listen to them as they try to figure out what is going on because it can be a very confusing (as well as mentally, emotionally and sometimes physically draining).

[Vari]

I never felt alone around my family, at least my immediate family. My mom has never made me feel weird about it or regret telling her about it. She's even helped me coop with the experiences that scared me as a kid. I plan to do the same with my kids when I have them. I am of sound belief that family should be there to support and guide you even if they tend to also be the ones to aggravate you. The aggravation just means they're making you better or you are making them better. I know this isn't the same experience everyone has with their family, but that's the family and household I grew up in so I plan on sharing that with the next generation.

While it makes sense that everyone has some sort of ability and connection, I doubt everyone has the same potential for it, otherwise it wouldn't be such a fringe topic. I think people have different levels of abilities just like with any other skill or talent. The question is how much it relates to bloodlines and genetics or not.

Maybe one day I'll ask my uncle about it, since I never knew he has the same experiences (to a degree or so) before. I'm just a little nervous about that since I haven't really been so close to him. I am closer to my one aunt but I know they all love me and my sister. (I have a big family with lots of uncles and aunts.)

Who knows? One day, perhaps.

[Alan Vende]

I have felt alone around them, but that's probably because I don't like crowds. I like to be by myself anyway. That's great that your mom helped you cope with the experiences that scared you. My mom told me that she was going to make my experiences stop since they were scaring me. I wasn't sure how she was going to do that as I was of the belief that she couldn't. I still don't really know what to think about that idea, though. I'm not really sure what I believe now that I'm six years into my journey. You're right: family should be there to support and guide you even if they aggravate you. But they shouldn't shun you if you are doing something that you believe in; they should support you, right?

Well, sometimes people say that they do, others say that they don't. I mean, everyone has the ability to talk to spirits and so on. And it comes "naturally" to some, but to others it doesn't. Some have to work at it, like me. I mean, everyone has to work at it, but some have to put in more effort than others, I have found. People do have different levels of abilities, you're right. But they can work on them, too, to make them stronger. I'm not really sure how much it relates to genetics, though. I mean, bloodlines, yes, but genetics, I'm not sure, as I don't think that there is a "psychic gene". I don't know, though, maybe there is? (Seriously, I don't know, maybe there is and we don't now about it? I never thought about that.) I mean, how are we psychic, anyway? I don't really know how to think about that question or where to even start. (The one "The question is how much it relates to bloodlines and genetics or not."

If you're uncomfortable asking, don't ask. Don't force yourself. But if you want to, there is no harm in asking a question.

[Vari]

There is no harm in asking a question. I just need to do it at the right time. A number of my cousins are people who tend to hold onto something and sometimes tease. I would prefer to avoid it in this case.

If it has to deal with bloodlines then genetics would be a part of it since DNA is in blood. (Sorry, scientist here.) But I think it would be interesting to hear what others think about this with bloodlines or not. Sure everyone, like we've both said, has different levels of ability. But maybe those with stronger natural abilities are related.

Sometimes parents just say things to help you feel more comfortable even if it doesn't make sense just because they don't know what to do. She tried though. You were perhaps too smart for it to work.

And yes, family should support you... unless what you think is right is really really bad.

[Alan Vende]

I can definitely understand the wanting to avoid teasing. I hate teasing.

Duh. I'm not really a scientist, heh. I have many friends who are psychics, but I have never had this type of discussions with them. It'd be interesting to ask them.

Heh, I think I was. You'er right that they say things to try to comfort you. I just don't really know how much it worked - even back when I was new to this. I don't think it worked well.

Right, that's exactly true. I mean, if I were to steal money from someone, then no, they shouldn't support me in that, but if I were to go off and be a lawyer or something like that, then they should.

[Vari]

I always think it's interesting to talk about these sorts of things with people of other minds and beliefs. Especially when it comes to mixing science with spirituality. Once I had felt like a contradiction in and of myself because I both believed in something beyond the physical plane and I believed in science. Now I know to embrace that part and the mixing within myself. Makes for an intriguing life.

[Alan Vende]

It is definitely interesting to talk to people who have other beliefs, but it's also a ground for argument, if you're not careful, I've found. It's sad because some people get into debates and such and they don't really accept the other person's opinion as their own. I have felt the same way, in terns of being a contradiction in and of myself. It's also good to be able to hear other's side of things, even if you don't necessarily agree with them.

[Vari]

But you don't have to accept other people's opinions as your own. You just have to accept it as a valid opinion. Debates are for discussion and opening eyes to other possibilities. Sure, sometimes a person may convert over to the other opinion if persuaded but that isn't a common occurrence.

If you are speaking with someone of a different belief and you feel it going south, then it's better to back off and try to change the subject (unless you really want to get into it with them which I wouldn't recommend). At the same time, never apologize for the belief or opinion that you have. I apologize too much and I'm slowing getting over that. Anyway, for discussions about beliefs, there are normally a tell or two as to whether it's going to become an argument or not. Of course, it is easier to recognize these tells when you know a person.

[Alan Vende]

You're right, you don't. You just have to make sure that you don't devalue them or think that their opinion is trash, like you said. I am a fan, but other the other had not so much a fan of debates because of how much opinions and so on can get into them and people could get into fights and do stupid things. I cannot tell you how many times that has occurred around me and even to me. When in a debate, people don't think rationally and get heated because they don't hear something that they like, they hear things that they don' like and get angry because of that.

I apologize too much, too, and it's my downfall, especially in debates. I am getting to the point, though, where I know that my opinion is my own and I shouldn't be afraid to express it or think that I have to apologize for it. I had had times, too, when I have gotten into a debate with someone and thoroughly regretted it afterwards. It is easy to recognize if things are going to turn into an argument if you know someone, you're right about that. I think that that's the case because you know what pushes their buttons and what doesn't.

[Sebesis]

Abilities definitely run in my family, but I don't know if that necessarily means they have to run in bloodlines. My family are open about it and have passed on knowledge through generations.

[Vari]

Alan Vende - I also apologize too much and that is something I am trying to fix. It makes my point (whenever and in whatever topic) feel weaker and I feel people take those who apologize too much not as seriously. For the other point, we just have to be careful in debates because they are primarily driven by facts mixed with opinions, which we have no right to undermine.

Sebesis - Back to the topic at hand! I think it's great that your family has been open and supportive about it. Perhaps the pure exposure to it on a personal level, gives people more encouragement to actually explore what they may or may not be capable of.

[Alan Vende]

Jan 13, 2016 5:50:32 GMT -5 Sebesis said:

Abilities definitely run in my family, but I don't know if that necessarily means they have to run in bloodlines. My family are open about it and have passed on knowledge through generations.

Abilities, as I think I have said, from what my family has said, run on my father's side of the family - "skipping" him considering that he is in no way open to them. My grandma, his mom, is just now coming to the realization that she is psychic, although she doesn't really want to "delve" into it (partly due to her religious background).

Jan 13, 2016 11:12:23 GMT -5 Vari said:

Alan Vende - I also apologize too much and that is something I am trying to fix. It makes my point (whenever and in whatever topic) feel weaker and I feel people take those who apologize too much not as seriously. For the other point, we just have to be careful in debates because they are primarily driven by facts mixed with opinions, which we have no right to undermine.

You're right, it does make the point weaker because we we apologize too much. It's sad... but, at the same time, I have noticed that sensitives - at least for me, apologize "too much" because we are so kind-hearted and warm. We are afraid to step on people's toes.

[Vari]

Jan 14, 2016 0:40:02 GMT -5 Alan Vende said:

Jan 13, 2016 5:50:32 GMT -5 Sebesis said:

Abilities definitely run in my family, but I don't know if that necessarily means they have to run in bloodlines. My family are open about it and have passed on knowledge through generations.

Abilities, as I think I have said, from what my family has said, run on my father's side of the family - "skipping" him considering that he is in no way open to them. My grandma, his mom, is just now coming to the realization that she is psychic, although she doesn't really want to "delve" into it (partly due to her religious background).

That's both cool and interesting. Both that it runs in your family and it skipped a generation like most other things that run in families. Perhaps the condition of being open to it is a requirement of the ability manifesting itself and hence the acknowledgement of the ability as true. I wonder if this is a chicken or the egg kind of thing.

Jan 14, 2016 0:40:02 GMT -5 Alan Vende said:

Jan 13, 2016 11:12:23 GMT -5 Vari said:

Alan Vende - I also apologize too much and that is something I am trying to fix. It makes my point (whenever and in whatever topic) feel weaker and I feel people take those who apologize too much not as seriously. For the other point, we just have to be careful in debates because they are primarily driven by facts mixed with opinions, which we have no right to undermine.

You're right, it does make the point weaker because we we apologize too much. It's sad... but, at the same time, I have noticed that sensitives - at least for me, apologize "too much" because we are so kind-hearted and warm. We are afraid to step on people's toes.

Very true. That point is actually quite interesting. The point that being Sensitive metaphysically could bleed into personalities to make you a person sensitive and wary of stepping on people's toes.

Do any others among the Sensitives here find themselves apologizing too much or being far too cautious of others' feelings?

[Alan Vende]

Jan 14, 2016 2:35:55 GMT -5 Vari said:

Jan 14, 2016 0:40:02 GMT -5 Alan Vende said:

Abilities, as I think I have said, from what my family has said, run on my father's side of the family - "skipping" him considering that he is in no way open to them. My grandma, his mom, is just now coming to the realization that she is psychic, although she doesn't really want to "delve" into it (partly due to her religious background).

That's both cool and interesting. Both that it runs in your family and it skipped a generation like most other things that run in families. Perhaps the condition of being open to it is a requirement of the ability manifesting itself and hence the acknowledgement of the ability as true. I wonder if this is a chicken or the egg kind of thing.

It is, but it only "skips" a generation because my dad isn't open to it. If he was open to it, they would have manifested. I'm not sure if it is, but at the same time, I'm not sure if it isn't because I haven't ever thought about it that way. It may be!

Jan 14, 2016 2:35:55 GMT -5 Vari said:

Jan 14, 2016 0:40:02 GMT -5 Alan Vende said:

You're right, it does make the point weaker because we we apologize too much. It's sad... but, at the same time, I have noticed that sensitives - at least for me, apologize "too much" because we are so kind-hearted and warm. We are afraid to step on people's toes.

Very true. That point is actually quite interesting. The point that being Sensitive metaphysically could bleed into personalities to make you a person sensitive and wary of stepping on people's toes.

Do any others among the Sensitives here find themselves apologizing too much or being far too cautious of others' feelings?

It does, very much so. I personally don't like getting into arguments or anything like that, so I keep my opinions and so on to myself.

I wouldn't say that I'm far too cautious of others' feelings, but I'm cognizant or them and hate conflict because it harbors negative energy.